# Ligature resistant grab bars that meet BC accessibility guidelines

**URL:** <https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/t/ligature-resistant-grab-bars-that-meet-bc-accessibility-guidelines/90>\
**Category:** Hot Topics / Current Challenges\
**Created:** [January 10, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/t/ligature-resistant-grab-bars-that-meet-bc-accessibility-guidelines/90 "2024-01-10T20:54:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![sdrew](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/sdrew/32/12_2.png) [@sdrew](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/u/sdrew)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/t/ligature-resistant-grab-bars-that-meet-bc-accessibility-guidelines/90/1 "2024-01-10T20:54:10Z")

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I am working on a project in Vancouver BC and my designer is struggling with reconciling the BC accessibility requirements with the need for ligature resistant grab bars.

They require the following:

- L-shaped grab bars for accessible washrooms, the vertical and horizontal component needs to be minimum 760mm. There are approximately 11 or 12 washrooms that would require the 760mm L-shaped grab bars.
- A larger one for a public shower that is 1000mm (horizontal) x 750mm (vertical).

Other Requirements – ligature resistant, durable, hygienic (meets IPC requirements), good water drainage.

How do you approach it if they can not find a product that meets both? Does ligature resistance trump BC accessibility? Can they apply for an exemption? Does anyone have experience with this that they can share?

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**Author:** ![stephenparker23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@stephenparker23](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/u/stephenparker23)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/t/ligature-resistant-grab-bars-that-meet-bc-accessibility-guidelines/90/2 "2024-01-11T02:55:44Z")

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**Author:** ![sdrew](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/sdrew/32/12_2.png) [@sdrew](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/u/sdrew)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/t/ligature-resistant-grab-bars-that-meet-bc-accessibility-guidelines/90/3 "2024-01-11T19:17:16Z")

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Thank you, Stephen!

I appreciate your knowledge around this.

Talk soon,

Susan

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**Author:** ![FrankPitts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@FrankPitts](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/u/FrankPitts)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/t/ligature-resistant-grab-bars-that-meet-bc-accessibility-guidelines/90/4 "2024-01-17T01:41:06Z")

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Here’s what we’d use for a ligature resistant, hygenic grab bar, with good water drainage.

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**Author:** ![sdrew](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/sdrew/32/12_2.png) [@sdrew](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/u/sdrew)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://bmhenforum.healthdesign.org/t/ligature-resistant-grab-bars-that-meet-bc-accessibility-guidelines/90/5 "2024-01-17T21:23:07Z")

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Thanks Frank,

I will forward on to the designer.

Susan

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